The Fat Doctor Podcast
How would you react if someone told you that most of what we are taught to believe about healthy bodies is a lie? How would you feel if that person was a medical doctor with over 20 years experience treating patients and seeing the harm caused by all this misinformation?In their podcast, Dr Asher Larmie, an experienced General Practitioner and self-styled Fat Doctor, examines and challenges 'health' as we know it through passionate, unfiltered conversations with guest experts, colleagues and friends.They tackle the various ways in which weight stigma and anti-fat bias impact both individuals and society as a whole. From the classroom to the boardroom, the doctors office to the local pub, weight-based discrimination is everywhere. Is it any wonder that it has such an impact on our health? Whether you're a person affected by weight stigma, a healthcare professional, a concerned parent or an ally who shares our view that people in larger bodies deserve better, Asher and the team at 'The Fat Doctor Podcast' welcomes you into the inner circle.
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Asher Takes His Power Back Part 2
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Following on from last week, Asher tells the GMC exactly what he thinks of them and why doctors should be focussing on tackling, prejudice, discrimination and injustice as opposed to protecting their own. You can read Asher's open letter to the GMC here.
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Episode 8. Season 4 of the fat doctor podcast. I'm going to warn you now.
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This is going to be a bit a bit raw, a bit real.
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Yeah, hopefully you've listened to the episode 7 if you haven't, then this is going to be completely utterly out of context for you.
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So I suggest you stop now. Go check out I've said 7 first and then come back to me.
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If you're watching me on YouTube yeah. You'll see my face. If not, you'll probably hear it in my voice.
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It's gonna be a painful one for me. Remember yes last week I talked about how I was gonna take in my power back.
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I realized that to take my power back I had to tell my story and this is often the case when you've been traumatized.
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The way to take your power back is to tell your story for 2 reasons. Number one, it brings it out into the open.
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And then we'll shame no more secret, no more hidden in the shadows. And number 2.
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This story is an important story. And It's how I'm going to quote how I'm coping and how I'm processing the trauma.
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So without further ado, let's get into it.
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I'm gonna talk about how the GMCs investigation of me has affected me as a person as a doctor.
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And I want to just put this out there right now. Content warning. This is going to be a dizzy.
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I will be talking about fat phobia. I will be talking about transphobia and I will be talking about suicide and depression.
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If that's not your thing, if you're not ready for that, then skip this episode, please, because I'm not gonna hold back.
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So I wanna tell you where it will begin. Up until 2,020 I was a I wasn't just a doctor I was an appraiser which means that I was part of the sort of doctor appraisal and revalidation process.
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I was the one that was appraising other people. That's to mean I didn't get prisoners on my own, of course I did.
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But the appraisal process basically is once a year you have an appraisal with an appraiser.
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And you discuss basically everything that is important and relevant to your fitness to practice and then. Sign a document and there's also a few other things you have to do.
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During a five-year cycle and then every 5 years you are revalidated, which means you are your licensed practice.
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Medicine is renewed. That's how it works in the UK. Up until 2020, I wasn't.
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Talking about weight stigma and I had no problems. I was successful. I had a job had colleagues who I would say love me but you know got on me well when my colleagues never had any issues always got you have to do lots of them get lots of feedback from patients and colleagues always had really good feedback from them.
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Life was great as far as I was concerned. And then, 2,020 happened and as many of you know, that's when I start waiting, writing a weight loss blog which turned into Tuck me dieting really sucks blog which turned into a hey did you know that you don't need a diet blog which turned into a diets really don't work let's try something different blog which turned into a, has anyone had a
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medical rate stigma? Blog and it's gone on from there. Now we have podcasts and we have.
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1 one but 2 but now the third Instagram account I am on tech talk Facebook I was on Twitter, I stopped being on Twitter as a result of the being inundated with hate posts, especially when a certain individual took over Twitter and it all went to hell.
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So I'm not on Twitter anymore but it used to be. On TikTok, did I say that? Everywhere.
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Hey, I mean on YouTube. What's up you 2 peeps? I think they're like 10 of you.
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And hmm, so. During that point in during that time so the Everything was great and then the GMC came along and got involved.
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Once I turned into a, went from my hay. Wait loss is great persona too. Hey, wait's lost sucks, Pasodo.
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And the reason that the GMC got involved is they don't know who I am is because people complained about me and people complain about me all the time as you can imagine people who don't like what I have to say.
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Will threaten me with report reporting me to the GMC because they know that threatening my livelihood is a way to silence me.
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And those of you know me know that I won't be silenced. So whenever people threaten me, I'm like here you go, my GMC number is 6, 0, 7, 7, 5, 6, 7.
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I publish it everywhere so that if you want to complain against me, it's very easy for you to do.
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I'm sorry they did and it started off I think in 2021. Our very well-known doctor on, on social media is Australian, then white.
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You know. Weight loss. She put in a complaint against me someone else when they come play against me.
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I think all about my social media posts. Medical misinformation, yadda yadda, right?
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So the GMC. Wrote to me for the first time back in 2,021 saying We're not going to we're not going to investigate you but you've done something bad you must discuss it with your responsible officer.
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During your next. Appraisal. At this point in time, I was like, okay, I was very upset.
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I didn't think it was fair, but I discussed it with my responsible officer and we did the appraisal, it was fine and I had very positive appraisal and there was no further action taken.
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And then all of this stuff happened as you heard what happened to me. In 2022 And since then.
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This thing has been hanging over my head.
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During that period of time I wrote a formal complaint. To the GMC. After complaining on multiple occasions but they're not taking me seriously I wrote a formal complaint to the GMC, stating that I believe I had been discriminated against.
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Right. And I've not got in front of me. Same video. I'll like try and get it up.
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While simultaneously doing this. And that's not my work, is it? Oh. Oh dear, oh lord.
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Okay, anyway, I wrote a letter of complaint. To the GMC. And it was 5 pages long and I'm not going to read it all to you.
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But my main complaints is a summary of my complaint. I believe I'm being discriminated against because of my gender.
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I'm transgender and my sexual orientation. I am LGBTQ. I believe I am being discriminated against because of my weight and my views about weight I believe I'm being discriminated against because of my views about race.
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I believe that the GMC is conspiring with those who are using my license to practice as a means of bullying and harassing me.
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For the 3 a, aforementioned reasons. It was a long fucking complaint and you can read it if you want because As I said, I'm making all of this stuff public.
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You can also read the Chancy's response to my complaint. Which is also very important to read because they basically turn around and say Like we hear what you're saying.
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And, you know, it's pretty bad, but tough.
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Which isn't great. You know, we'll pass your comments on and We hear you, but no.
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And so it was very unsatisfactory response, but I bet a lot of you can relate to that, right?
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How many times have you written a complete letter to a doctor or a you know medical professional and being fobed off.
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Oh we are sorry you were upset but. Will pass your, will pass your feedback on. Thanks very much.
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And that's the end of it. So. When did I write that? Oh, should should be able to tell you.
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I think it was after the Rule 12 decision, which from what I can remember is November, 2,022.
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No. Eleventh of January, 2023. That's when I wrote it and I got the response in the eleventh on the Twentieth January, 2023.
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So about a year ago now. And that was the end of it. So.
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This this has been a really long drawn out process for me just to remind you of the timeline in 2,021 I received the first set of complaints which the GMC decided they wouldn't act on, but I need to discuss with my responsible officer in May, April and May, 2020.
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2, so a year later. I received my second 2 complaints that the GMC, again, ruled that didn't require further action.
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But there would be, discussed. Needs to be discussed with my responsible officer. Then later on that year I received notice that they were going to look into it that they were going to review whether or not to open another investigation into me and then in November 22 they decided that they were going to open another investigation into me.
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And then in November, 22, they decided that they were going to open another investigation into me. And then in November, 22, they decided that they were going to open an investigation into my fitness practice.
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And then I waited until November, 2,023 until they actually opened an investigation into my finished practice and then finally in January, 2,024, I was told that I was going to receive a formal warning for being racist.
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And, and, and discriminating against people because of their gender and the sexual orientation based on 2 tweets.
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Out of the however many.
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So I want to talk about how this has impacted me. Because this is my fucking story and this is my fucking podcast and I'm going to talk about how it impacted me and I'm gonna swear and I'm gonna say whatever I want because it's my story.
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But who? Not gonna cry. That's I'm definitely not gonna do that. To begin with it has impacted me physically and I'm going to talk about that because it's probably the least important thing.
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Impacted me physically because it has caused a lot of damage to my body. For those who don't know, chronic stress causes inflammation.
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And inflammation messes with your body and I have seen the physical manifestation when it comes to my own personal health.
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Things like my Excel has been really bad the last couple of years and I've not been able to get on top of it.
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It's impacted my blood sugar. And it's impacted my ability to sleep, it is impacted, it's caused halmoral imbalances in me and it's it's exacerbated a lot of the underlying issues that I had going on, for example, I'm heading towards perimenopause.
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Well, heading towards parent menopause sucks, but when you're chronically stressed, it's even worse.
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So physically it has impacted me, but that's the least. Of my issues. I want to talk about how it's impacted me.
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Socially I guess. In 2,022 I had a job. I had a whole bunch of colleagues.
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Who supporters me, who cared about me. By 20,02020 by 2022 I don't have a single person left in my corner I like literally every single one of my colleagues has abandoned me.
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They refuse to write references for me. They refuse to acknowledge me. They talked shit about me behind my back.
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I haven't been able to get onto the performers list. So when I moved to Scotland, I'm moved from England to Scotland and therefore I had to get onto a list saying that can be a doctor in Scotland.
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And in order to do that I need references from my previous employers. They just refuse to give me one.
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I feel endless. And you know what? I am so lucky to have you.
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I'm so fortunate to have this incredible community who has come through for me. Time and time again.
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But this has impacted me socially.
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It's impacted me financially, folks. 2,000, and 22 is 23.
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If I just find my tax return, 30 first of January, I found my tax return for 2022 to 2,023 from.
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April to April, right? And I'm made in total. 5,713 pounds that year.
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That's how much money I made.
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I basically had to eat into my savings. The only way we've managed to survive my husband is disabled and he is not able to work and will never be able to work again.
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In Dentist Street as a dentist. And so he, is not earning any income and I have been the sole owner and will continue to be the soul early for the rest of our lives.
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I when I went off sick originally I went off stick with stress and burnout that was back in 21.
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And that was actually Partly to do with the GMC, but actually at the time it was more to do with burnout, COVID and the fact that 2 out of my 3 children were in and out of hospital.
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I don't know how many times were in and out of hospital. I don't know how many times went into hospital, but I think it was 18 or 20 times in one year.
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We were in an out It was a lot. I was having a really difficult time and so that's why I went off, sick to begin with.
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But then all of this happened and I was planning to go back to work because I didn't have any sick pay and I need to make money.
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And I couldn't because of this because of how this impacted me mentally and emotionally which I will talk about in a minute but it has impacted my bottom line now I'm not saying this so you feel sorry for me I am perfectly aware of the fact how how lucky I am.
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That I had enough savings. That I could survive and that I could feed my family and protect my family the last couple of years.
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People if they lost their job, that would be the end of them, right? Like they would be homeless.
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I'm not homeless. I'm perfectly aware of the fact how privileged I am and I'm not complaining about it but to, to, to get, you know, to, to get to this place that we're in right now.
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We had to Sell our house. You know, spend, you know, eat into our savings, take out loans.
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Etc, etc. So it's impacted me financially. But really, The main thing has been how it's impacted me emotionally.
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And mentally.
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I'm gonna describe something now.
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I don't know how many people can relate. The word that comes to mind is dread. The feeling of dread.
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Do you do you know what I'm talking about here folks?
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When I was, I was about 9 or 10. My dad locked me in. A spare bedroom of my grandmother's house.
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And beat the shit out of me. And I remember this very, very well. It's a very strong memory of mine.
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Not the first or the last time he beat me. He was physically abusive, but He hit me so hard that I ended up on the floor.
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And then he started kicking me and he was kicking me in my gut and I was protecting my head and then when he started kicking my my gut I think automatically I try to protect my torso and protect my gut.
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And then I watched his but coming towards my head. And in that moment, it was slowed down in my mind anyway, certainly my memories.
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It was slowed down. I remember looking him in the eye in that moment and he had. This maniacal look on him at the It was a movie that came out.
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Cool, I can't remember it with Jessica Rabbit in.
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I can't remember. But anyway, there's this character in it that's got like these eyes that like go around they're really creepy I just remember this from my childhood you probably don't even know what I'm talking about but and the look was like you quick and terrifying in the moment.
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I remember thinking, oh shit, he's going to kill me. I'm going to die, this is it.
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I'm dying. I was 9, 10, and I thought I was going to die. On the floor of a spare bedroom.
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I'm my grandmother's house. That was dread and that feeling of dread. The way it impacts my body how I feel in my body and I can't quite describe it it is these intense gripping fear it's not fear it's fear times a thousand And I keep that.
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I hold this experience. Feeling in my body and I have done for my whole entire life. That's dread.
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Every time I see an email from the GMC That's what happens to my body. My body is filled with the same dread.
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Now I know. Logically, that the GMC don't have the power to actually kill me.
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I know, you know, at the time I believed my dad was going to kill me and that's the feeling in the sensation I get and I know that it's not actually like you're about to die fear.
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Like, you know, it's not that serious, but it feels the same way in my body.
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And it takes me weeks. To recover every single time. Weeks. When I think about what's happening, like the fear, the dread, this part of me.
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You know. It just is overwhelming. And I can't explain to you the impact that's had on me.
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I struggle with depression and anxiety and I have done for a really long time. From my childhood, I had a very traumatic childhood.
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The first time, well, I had I had depression and anxiety when I was a teenager. And I had it all through My twenties and then I had postpartum depression.
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Which was not diagnosed, not until my third child. And even then it wasn't properly diagnosed.
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My postpart in depression was a different, like it felt different to normal depression or my normal depression, what depression normally feels like for me.
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In that I was plagued with. Terrifying thoughts with these like paranoid thoughts that something's gonna happen to baby, I'm gonna harm the baby, I'm gonna drop the baby, the baby's gonna fall out my arms down the stairs like There was death.
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Constant fear of death. So lots of paranoid feelings are really heightened anxiety. More than the kind of apathy that I would get normally with the depression.
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So I'd had a miscarriage and I remember like when I had the miscarriage I just couldn't even get a bed you know it was just I literally didn't get that bad for 2 weeks.
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So, just couldn't physically after that you know it was it was grief it was trauma and even normally with depression and when I'm having periods of depression I'm usually quite So of not quite with it, you know, I'm just I'm very distant.
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I dissociate a lot. I'm very subdued. I don't get particularly anxious.
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But in these situations, when I'm filled with this dread. Kind of like when I was postpartum and like every time I read an email from the GMC, I go over into overdrive, overstimulated rather than under-stimulated.
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So there's all this anxiety, I can't sleep, I can't think, I can't concentrate, I can't do anything, I am constantly repeating it over and over and over and over and over again in my head.
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I feel powerless. I feel Like, what's the point? I feel useless and embarrassed and ashamed and guilty and scared and angry.
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And yeah. I'll be honest, there are times when I might cross the point.
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That's time. I tried to take my life. I was 17. I've made several attempts since then.
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I have to say. Much less so over the last 10 years I have been plagued with suicidal thoughts and I often am in the same way that when I had postpartum depression I was plagued with paranoid thoughts about my children.
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But these weren't like, I didn't, you know, these were thoughts that came into my head in the same way I am plagued with thoughts of suicide and when when this stuff troubles me when I begin to feel it in my body my brain automatically says you're useless it's your fucking thought why didn't you see this coming why did you get yourself into the situation it's all your fault You
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should be ashamed of yourself. You're good for nothing. You're a lousy doctor, you're a lousy person, you're, you know, look at what's going to happen, what's going to happen to your family, you're going to have no money, you're going to be home homeless.
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You know, all these thoughts over and over and over again in my head and they don't stop they don't stop they don't stop in every few months.
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The GMC starts it all over again. It's took them a ye. Between telling me I was going to have a fitness to practice investigation to giving me one a whole year where I lived with it hanging out in my head.
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Another 3 months before they actually told me what happened. And is still ongoing because I'm not going to accept this fucking warning.
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Hell no. So it's going to keep going. I don't have any legal support.
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I don't have a single colleague I can turn to. There's nothing and nobody. That I can reach out to.
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These Gareth, my investigation officer, when he spoke to me, the first time I spoke to him, which would be back in November last year, act hysterical.
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It's hysterical. Like I, I tried to hold it in, I couldn't, I was hysterical.
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Like I, I, I tried to hold it in, I couldn't, I became hysterical.
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I hate that word because it's of its misogynistic connotations but I don't know how to describe it.
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I couldn't control myself. I was weeping and I was just saying the first thing that came my mind and I was telling him I'm suicidal like I am having suicidal thoughts because of because of all of this because of what you put me through.
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And there was the kind of very patronising placating, oh, I really care about you, Dr. Lyme.
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You're fucking know you don't. Because when you finally had to send me the email to tell me the thing, you did it on a Friday, 4 min before you left.
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Weekend. You don't care about me, you deliberately waited until that time to do what you did.
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But whatever, he said he cared about me and you know what he told me and this was incredible.
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He said to me, I'm Listen, I'm, I used to work for the police.
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I promise you I'm on your side. And he said that with absolutely no irony. Hey genuinely thought that being an A former police officer or a member of the police force would reassure me in some way.
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I'm thinking less. You really don't get it, do you? You don't, you don't get it.
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None of you get it. I wanna do something right now. You might not like this. And content warning.
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Times a million. I've got to bring up this document now. I'm gonna read you some of the hate mail.
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This is a document that I sent to the GMC to explain to them what it's like.
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To be. An Asian Jewish. Queer, trans, fat person. On the internet.
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Gan Doors says, oh I've got to bring it up. Let me, here we go.
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Dan Door says. You're a fucking disgraceful Charlottean. All right, done.
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I mean, kudos, you know. They. Oh no, is that it? Okay.
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I've got, I know I can't find it.
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Oh dear me, well, I'll have to come back to it. Maybe I'll do an entire They all do an entire podcast where I've just read through all of the nasty messages people ever sent me.
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Maybe I'll just do that. Just for shit again, we can make fun of them together. Maybe that's what I'll do.
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But anyway, that was just one of the many things. That's actually nothing like some of the hate mail I've got.
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I am called a Shebrew. That's that I've been calling that more than once people make reference to my nose.
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They say I look like Danny Devito as the penguin in Batman. They make as many transphobic comments as they can.
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They know that they're very clever nowadays. There's certain words they can't use.
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So they use different words instead. I have been cold every name under the sun and you all know it like just go check out my posts especially on Facebook and they're incredible, like the things people say about me with no, I mean this is why I took down Twitter because Twitter is not doing anything about it.
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People were, you know, sending me like Nazi. Propaganda and and and all sorts of things it was it was really quite shocking and what I've realised is a lot of the people who hate me because I'm trans also hate because I'm Jewish.
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But yeah. That didn't work out because I thought I had all the information in front of me but I didn't.
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Whoops. Never mind. These things happen. Let's move on.
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So the GMC. Their investigation into me. Caused me no end of distress.
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But they would argue, yeah, but you know, we're a professional body. We're a regulatory body and it's our job.
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You know, your feelings don't come. Above patient safety. That's what they'll tell you and they're right. And I agree with that.
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Like if I had genuinely done something wrong. I would argue sure but if you remember going back to the original findings following the complaints.
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The the finance are very clear look sure Dr. Lammy says things you didn't like but they don't warrant an investigation into their fitness practice.
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Sure, you think that's medical misinformation, but you know, there are studies and it's not our job to decide whether those studies are right or wrong.
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You might not like the things that Dr. Lamy has said, but we are not here to defend you.
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Against libel, that's if you believe that you're being defamed if you believe it, it's libel then, call a lawyer.
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So I think that that was reasonable. I don't know you, but I think that was reasonable.
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Notice that they started investigating me because the follow-up was Yeah, but she He, they in, in speech marks, what else did they call me?
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Designated female designated male. Is racist.
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Looking on on white thin people. And all of a sudden. The GMC decides. Time to investigate.
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And they openly state. That I am. That I am. Bringing the profession into disrepute.
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Because I am standing up. Against white supremacy, openly and publicly. In my own way, sure I don't get right 100% of the time.
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I'm sure I say things that I shouldn't say. I'm too inflammatory.
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I'm I'm too much sometimes. I get that. Because I am standing up to people whom I have a real genuine concern about I'm not going into the details of complaints, but as I said, I stand by everything I said.
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They're investigating me because they say I discriminate. And I'm not safe again with my patients.
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I'm not as a result. And that I don't know how to maintain confidentiality. That's the thing that they said warranted further investigation into me.
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And I want to ask you now. Is that right? Because last time I checked You'll share your stories about how doctors harm you.
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On a daily basis the things they say and do. Nothing happens. There are doctors on the internet that are saying all sorts of things about fat people and selling weight loss.
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Nothing happens. There are doctors that hate fat people openly and publicly. Nothing happens. But when I say something about thin people, not thin patients, by the way, because I have a, I do not condone, condemn people who are trying to lose weight.
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I have a problem with thin people. I'm talking about, I'm talking about structures, systems, and if you don't know the difference, then that's not a meat problem, that's a you problem, like you need to learn the difference, you need to learn what white supremacy is.
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But if you like you know if if if If that's bothering you, then I would argue that's more of a you problem than a meat problem.
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It doesn't, it does not make me. Races and they accuse me of reverse racism.
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It's 2,02324 now people. And they had the audacity to recuse, accuse me of reverse racism.
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Using the term color, and I've said this now a couple of times. On in what?
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On what planet do we use the term colour?
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This is when I read out to my husband, he said the person who wrote that still uses the word half caste.
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And says colored people for one of their work. 2 massively offensive. What, right? We all know why you do not use those words.
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Even in the states where you say people of color. You don't say color, you say race.
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They had the audacity to say, I have a racism problem and they don't even know.
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How do you, this is a legal warning, but it is an official document. They don't understand why transgender doctor is afraid of cisgender people.
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They say that makes me a danger to my all my patients assist gender. I have like 0 trans patients at the moment.
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For the last 5 years I haven't had a single transpation. All of my patients assist gender has Any of them ever complained ever in the history of my career of me being unsafe.
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No! The only reason people would complain about me now is because I'm trans and they don't want to see a trans doctor.
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Not because I don't like cis people. I am being I don't have a single colleague standing by me.
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This is a society problem, not a meat problem. The idea that I break confidentiality, I'm not even gonna go there, that's disgusting.
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I can't believe I'm being accused of this, but. That's because the thin white people who complained against me were upset that I didn't keep their confidence, that I exposed them publicly.
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Apparently I'm not allowed to do that. Even though people do it all the time. I didn't, you know, I tried communicating with them.
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But actually sometimes when you are in a place where you are the victim, you need to say no.
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And in this case, when it came to one of the complainants, I was protecting another victim. I was protecting a victim, a member of the public who was being treated really badly by this particular individual.
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So I stepped in on Twitter. And I gave them what for and they had to listen to me because I'm a doctor.
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So when I say something people listen and I don't like that because it shouldn't be that way but they didn't like it either.
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I don't
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I don't feel safe. Being a doctor any more. I haven't felt safe for years.
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It's not safe for me to be a doctor and I've realized that I can't I can't be a doctor when the people who are responsible.
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For my license. Treat me the way that they have. Hold such, I would argue racist in transphobic beliefs.
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I don't feel safe because I worry about the future. For example, we all know what happens to people in the workplace when they spoke up about Palestine, right?
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We've seen countless stories of professionals, really like people who had like secured professions, people with 10 year at universities and people in positions of authorities throughout many countries.
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We all heard about how they were literally just dismissed from their jobs, right? I'm a Jewish person.
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With highest to Israel. Family who live in Israel, family who have I've cut off because of their The way that they're behaving.
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I'm Jewish.
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Speak up about Palestine. Someone wrote to me the other day, I've spent 2 h on the phone with the GMC reporting you for anti-Semitism.
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And, you know, part of me was like, okay then. Good luck proving a Jew is anti semitic just because they're saying free Palestine and using the word genocide pretty sure that other people agree with me so carry on.
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But the thing that really worried me was that, again, I can't trust the GMC to not investigate me for this.
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They've investigated me for less. So I don't trust them. And I think this is going to massively impact.
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You. And you might be thinking like this has been 2. 2 episodes now where you've basically been talking about yourself asher.
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Nice one. But this is why I think it's going to impact you 2 reasons. Number one, there are very few plans doctors out there.
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In the UK, very few of us. Disproportionately fewer trans doctors than there are trans people in the world.
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I don't have the exact number, but now there's one less.
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So Chands people do not. Trust doctors, we've got lots of evidence for that. And trans people.
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Need more representation within the medical profession, not less.
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The GMC is using its power over me. To support. Cisgender people to uphold Cis Hetero Heyriarchy.
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To uphold white supremacy. The using their power to do that. And as a result, There will be fewer trans Doctors, not more.
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So that's a real blow for trans people who need more representation rather than less. He's the other thing, if the GMC hold these views.
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And they're in charge of the doctors. What's going to stop them? From. From preventing doctors.
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From practising with these views because you know There are 4 really important fundamental pillars of medicine. One is to do what's in the best interest of your patient.
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The second is to do no harm. The third is to respect autonomy and the fourth is justice.
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And in general, in terms of general medical council, We call this section 4 probity. It's all about justice and fairness.
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Are you practising legally, fairly? Are you making sure that you don't discriminate against people?
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This is part of good medical practice. Probity. Heart of probity. Is.
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Is that? That is is making sure that you're sticking up for the people who are oppressed who are in march who have marginalized identities the people who don't have a voice who don't have power who have less access to health care.
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Your job is to advocate for them. To make sure that they are not discriminated against. And instead, if the GMC won't do it for doctors, how can we trust them?
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To enforce that amongst the doctors. We have a racism problem in the GMC and no doubt a transphobic problem in the GMC.
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We have major issues. There are significantly disproportionately larger amounts of black, brown and indigenous people being in investigated and targeted by the GMC, then there are white doctors.
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And we have seen cases of this if you want to go look up Dr. Bawa Garba.
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Classic case Muslim Black Woman. Go check out how she was treated by the GMC. We have a problem in the GMC.
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You have a problem. They just, won't act on it and I want to read you Now, my final complaint to the GMC was untired.
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After I got you on then I think the January after I got was I'm tired But I believe this ruling is a form of discrimination.
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And I want you to do something about it. So once again, I am. Yeah, making a complaint of discrimination.
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And I got a message from Paul Bridge investigation manager from the GMC on the 20 third of January.
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It's a day for my twentieth wedding anniversary folks just in case you're wondering. We have considered your emails under a customer complete policy.
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We recognize as we recognize you are unhappy with the surface you have received. If you like it.
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This is the first response. This purpose. I'm going to read you paragraph 4 because again it's all on the internet.
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As you are aware the GMC processes and procedures are underpinned by statutory guidance and legislation.
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All staff must all undergo mandatory equality, diversity and inclusion training and relevant staff are trained in how to identify and be aware of unconscious bias.
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These factors are aimed at, amongst other things, eliminating any potential discrimination. And therefore Hall Bridge.
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Is satisfied that there are adequate safeguards in place to ensure that individuals are not discriminated against. On any grounds.
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That's why I wrote. My open letter. That's why I've made these podcast episodes because I've complained, I've done everything I can in my power that I can do and they are satisfied.
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That there is no unconscious bias in the G.
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I don't know what to say about that. You decide whether you think that's true. Do you think that the GMC All safe.
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For black patients, for brown patients, for indigenous patients, for transgender patients. For minority ethnic patients.
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Are they safe for queer patients? Disabled patients, neurodivergent patients. Are they safe?
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Are they safe? Because they are the ones that hold our license to practice every single doctor. Has to be revalidated and appraised by someone representing the GMC.
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You want to know why doctors get away with fat phobia. You want to know why? I mean, we have so many statistics about medical weight stigma but you want to know why they get away with it because the GMC is doing nothing to enforce it.
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Medical weight stigma is wrong. According to domain 4 of good medical practice. GMC guidelines, the thing they were quoting me on, right, paragraph 65, there are many, many paragraphs before that.
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And where they speak specifically about discrimination. Medical weight stigma. Is a breach of duty of care in the UK explicitly.
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You want to know why? Doctors get away with it every day because the GMC refused to enforce it.
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GMC refused to enforce. Medical misogyny. Rules against medical misogyny and the GMC refuses to enforce some rules against transphobia.
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And racism. They will not enforce it. Because they even though they claim have no unconscious bias.
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Are massively biased and we know this to be the case we know that these systems are set up.
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Who supports? Right supremacy to uphold White supremacy. And anyone who dares challenge white supremacy in any way.
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Going to be attacked not not even ignored attacked Threatened. Blues their ability to work. You become unemployable.
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Because they dared step out of line. So you ask yourself. Where do you think? That something needs to change.
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Whether you think that something needs to be done. About this. I don't care any more. I can't stop them.
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I can't fight against them. Even if I try I don't know that I want to go through this feeling of dread anymore.
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I just want to be done with it. I'm going to resign my registration. My registration, my license to practice.
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I have to renew it in August and I'm not going to renew it. So I won't have a license to practise and I will no longer be a medical doctor.
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And I've made my peace with that. Cause I can't possibly work. Knowing what the GMC can do to me, I can't.
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I've made my peace with that so it's not personal anymore. But I need people to know what's going on.
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And I need people to ask themselves whether it's fair, whether it's right or whether we're going to do something about it.
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Whether we're going to allow doctors to continue to get away with this discrimination or whether we are finally going to do what we're supposed to have been doing this entire time.
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Which is putting things into place. Systems and structures into place to prevent them from happening. Putting system instructions into place that protect the most vulnerable against us.
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You know, if any profession is gonna do it, it needs to be the health profession. We need to lead the fucking way.
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We need to be the standard by which everyone follows. Because like every profession needs to do that right every part of the world needs to do that but Sortly the health care profession should be leading the way.
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I've said enough. I hope you join me for a much more lighthearted podcast next week.
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Thank you for listening and This is just gonna be a constant working progress. I'm sure I will keep people up dated and maybe I will talk about more about this in the future.
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But as of now, I am making this public. So that other people can see exactly. How the GMC have treated me as an individual and more importantly the beliefs and values that they hold.
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Thanks for listening and I'll see you next time.